We see in Revelation chapter 18, a place being
In light of the prophecies
that show Israel and surrounding countries as being the central focus
Last Days it does not seem that this place that is destroyed would be in
Europe or the Middle East.
Revelation 18 also shows that
because merchants(sellers) are devastated at this destruction,
that is destroyed must be a BUYER
of the marketed goods produced in other places.
That would mean that the economy of that BUYING place was good and that the
of that place was stabilizing the nations that the seller merchants
Since we are close to the end of the Generation that Jesus said would see all these things,
I cannot see their being time for a new 'Buying' nation to appear so I believe Revelation
chapter 18 is America in 2017.
In Revelation chapter 6 we
see the results on the world, from the destruction(whether nuclear or meteoric)
of this place, symbolized as 4 horsemen with these roles:
1. White horse:
- and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.
horse: - takes peace from the earth that they should kill one another.
horse: - food lack - scales weighing food in his hand, a measure of
wheat for a days wages.
- his name is Death, and Hell followed with him. And
power was given unto them over the fourth
part of the earth, to kill with
sword, and with hunger.
4 horsemen generalize the entire destruction that follows all through the book of Revelation.
They are not sequential, when they start they
happen continually on the whole earth in varying degrees
and are reflected in
all the plagues that come.
The events above are going to start to happen to
the entire world in the next few
Timewise, I believe the
destruction of the place in Revelation 18 is just prior to and
may be viewed as the natural causes of the events that the 4 horsemen typify.
We have seen Whats going to
happen and When it’s going to happen, lets see Where it’s going to happen.
of a candle shall shine no more at all in
voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more
all in thee: for thy merchants were the great
men of the earth; for by thy
were all nations deceived.” - Revelation
of Rev 18 is about the destruction of one
limited place. The entire earth
is not destroyed
because those not destroyed in chapter 18 mourn the place that
was destroyed. As said before,
of people were told to “come out of her”
before the destruction. This
could not be the
coming of Jesus to set up his kingdom because that ends all
things and there would not be
merchants at this times due to the extensive
damage to earth by the judgments throughout
Revelation and the battle of Armageddon.
limited type of destruction talked about in Revelation 18 could easily bring on
that the 4 horsemen produce though.
18 describes a group of “great men of the earth”, they were money men
owners of huge conglomerates, of stock markets that bought and sold
everything and made a
profit doing it, other merchants and businesses respected
them, and mourn when they are wiped out
– IN ONE HOUR! (Rev 18:8)
Could this describe America?
Revelation 18 starts out with the pronouncement in
verse 2 that “Babylon
the great is fallen”,
we see that the “earth was lightened” and a people were called to “come
out of her”.
does not take a genius to see which country is producing a Gospel “voice”,
(radio, TV, internet), that is
silenced in the verse above.
The positive side is that
there was a voice coming out, right until the end.
Once that is gone we see suppression, false Christs,
false religion etc.
starkness and reality of the truth that the New generation of the 144,000 will
with it is a different age and are specifically the “chosen” from the
parable of the workers in Matthew 20:16
the Revelation18:23 verse above, what was taken out?
said that He is the light of the world in John 9:5.
do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel” Jesus said,.. so
this specific time (above) the Light of testimony had been shining.
the church is taken out (“come out of her my people”) by the Rapture from this one
nation the verse called “in thee” which
did have the light coming out of it,
will no longer be any light in it at all (there will be no more Gospel
light in it or coming
out of it, and perhaps even no livable physical environment).
21:43 says: “Therefore say I unto you,
The kingdom of God shall be taken from you,
and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof”.
verse was prophecy about America receiving the evangelistic Gospel message and soon
will come to the point where “the light of a candle shall shine no more at all
I believe that that allocation of the resources to “a nation” to spread the
reversed as the Rapture and sudden destruction destroys it to the
point that that nation
“shall no more
have the light in it”. America as the messenger of the Gospel ceases,
while the original intent of the spreading of the Gospel goes back to Israel through
sealing of the 144,000 (Rev 7).
Has any nation brought forth more fruit than America?
Think of the Gospel shared,
the missionaries sent, the orphanages opened, even the mostly
within that our country has had, all based on American Christians being
obedient to God.
the reference to ‘sorceries’, would that
describe things like technology, graphics, CGI interfaced movies,
manhood and womanhood… things that would make other nations want to buy and
vanities and technological advances (sorceries) of our nation?
nation, above all nations has advanced those things?
the writings in Revelation about Babylon being
so fantastic and filled with idols…
how could the existing Babylon (which, as we have recently heard is
being slightly rebuilt)
become such a world power that the merchants of the
earth would weep over her.
with America, Europe and China
still in the picture.
see the nation that gets destroyed is symbolic Babylon, a rich nation with a lot of trade
partners and technology, and those seeing her destruction can stand “far off” (physically distanced, as to
you ever thought about all those Revelation destructions… a third of the trees
a third of the waters, a third of the people all destroyed, yet it
seems that society still continues
up until armies are raised at the battle of
Armageddon to fight. Could it be that
all those one third
destructions are located in one area, away from Europe and
the Middle East?
Let’s look at two verses to
get a better understanding of what I believe to be a prediction
of America and see
how this matches Revelation chapter 18.
Romans 10:18 - 19 “ But I say, Have they not heard?
Yes verily, their sound went into all the earth,
and their words unto the
ends of the world. But I say, Did
know? First Moses saith,
I will provoke
you to jealousy by them that are no people, and by a foolish
nation I will anger you”.
This is a prediction of a
nation that can take their sound & words to all the earth, not just at the
of a technological period (like Marconi and the invention of the radio)
but at the end of a
development cycle, when the existing technology AND
distribution, at THAT TIME, “their sound”
would cover the entire earth.
American radio, television
and movies are at that point more than any other.
And specifically those words
will provoke Israel, because,
I believe, those words
going to all the earth will be about Jesus, who was
rejected by Israel.
And the verse is referring to
a nation that was not a nation at the time this was
written (“them that are no people”) or a
‘melting pot’ nation.
So we can see that America would fit in three points (1) a merchant
(2) a nation that can take their message (as American Christian
stations do) around the world, and
(3) that message would not be appealing to Israel.
I think that the way liberal
thinking has made America
today, to comment on the
“foolish nation” aspect of the verse would be
In the bible what is the
symbol we associate with Babylon?
The tower… what does a tower
symbolize – Broadcasting –
“their sound went into all the earth”.
As the tower of Babel
attempted to reach to the heavens, God confounded their
languages and scattered
them upon all the face of the earth…. America represents all
languages brought together again in a mixing pot – and also transmitted on the
airwaves, ready to be scattered by the rapture.
Could we say that the verse
that I believe takes the Gospel from the Jews to America:
“Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be
taken from you, and given
to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof”(Mt 21:43),
could also apply at the end
of this Age, only to appoint the Gospel back to Israel?
fits a nation that would bring forth fruits of the kingdom of God,
the sound going around the world, and a nation that did not exist when that was
Another thought on this is
what we can see from the timing of
the World Empires predicted
in Revelation 17:10: “And there are seven
kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is
not yet come; and when
he cometh, he must continue a short
space. And the beast that was,
and is not, even he is the eighth,
and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.
And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received
no kingdom as yet;
but receive power as kings one hour with the beast”.
A world empire (America,
like the nation who’s merchants were the great men of the earth
chapter verse) would be the 7th empire. It would last a “short space”
But out of the remains or structure or
last leadership of the 7th the 8th Empire the
Antichrist would rise.
Revelation 17 talks about these 8 world kingdoms it goes into a little detail
about the 8th
empire (just beginning) but in Revelation chapter 18
it jumps back into specific detail about a
nation that is destroyed. I
believe that Revelation 18 is the detail of the destruction of the short
world empire described in Revelation chapter 17.
So we can see that America
would fit in six points (1) a merchant nation, (2) a nation shining the light,
(3) a nation that can take their
message around the world, (4) a message
not be appealing to Israel,
(5) a nation that did not exist at that time (6) a
nation with a big imprint but a short history.
Can see that the timeframe of
the rapture IS something God wants us to see and prepare for.
And if you can look at the information
pertaining to the date of the rapture and see 2017 as the
best timing then you
can see the evidence that America could be the nation that the Bible talks
as being suddenly destroyed…. then futuristically you can understand a
Then we can move on to the
next question which is, can we see HOW America
will be destroyed at the
same time as the rapture.
Let’s focus in on the instant of the rapture.
Jesus says that some will be
sleeping and some will be working (Mt 24:40-41, Luke 17:34-36).
This shows that the rapture
will be world wide, while we work in America,
others are sleeping in Asia.
But there is another warning in Luke, just a little before Jesus talks about the ‘ones
being taken and the ones being left’.
Here is the context:
Luke 17:27 “They did eat,
they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage,
until the day that Noe entered into
the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed
28 Likewise also as it was in
the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold,
planted, they builded; But the same day
that Lot went out of Sodom
rained fire and brimstone
from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed”.
I am going to stop here just
for a second… notice what happens in each of these events,
life is going on as
normal then there is a sudden destruction.
In Noah’s day the Luke verse above says
that a flood came and destroyed them all.
But, in the day Lot went out of Sodom, “it rained fire and brimstone” on a
Jesus says it’s
going to happen in that same manner
“in the day when the
Son of man is revealed”! Destruction on a specific place.
God has said that the earth
will never be flooded again but is
Jesus telling us that
on the day the Rapture happens – it will rain fire and
That seems to fit in
with a one third destruction, in one hour, if that is true,
perhaps many won’t
even notice that there has been a rapture?
But here is an even bigger
point, since Jesus is telling us that on that day there will be fire
brimstone, he begins to tell us what to do as we see it coming: (Luke 17)
31 “In that day, he which shall be upon the
housetop, and his stuff in the house,
let him not come down to take it away:
and he that is in the field, let him likewise not return back.
32 Remember Lot's
shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life
shall preserve it”.
verses above are different from the ones in Matthew 24:16 where Jesus says
Judea should flee to the
mountains (that was about the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D
.(how do you flee Fire
verses 31 to 33 (above) are about not looking back, and not fleeing,
being ready to lose our lives, to
preserve our lives in God!
IS ABOUT PREPARING FOR THE RAPTURE
and the very next verse takes us there…(Luke 17)
34 “I tell you,
in that night there shall be two in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the
other shall be left.
shall be working together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
36 Two shall be in the field; the one shall be
taken, and the other left.
37 And they answered and said unto him, Where,
Lord? And he said unto them,
Wheresoever the body is, there will the eagles be gathered together”.
we can see the ‘Eagle and Body” verse in the context of the
‘body’ of believers being taken from the
earth, but the word
used in the comparative verse in Mt
24:28 where physical
bodies are destroyed at the same time as the
Revelation 18:8 “Therefore shall
her plagues come in one day,
death, and mourning,
and famine; and she
shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God
who judgeth her. And the kings of the
earth, who have committed fornication and lived
deliciously with her, shall
bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her
Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas,
that great city Babylon,
that mighty city!
for in one hour
is thy judgment come.”
What if all
eternity hangs on our acceptance of God's offer of Love?
And we reject that and decide to
choose our own way, or try to hang on to the old wrong ways
as long as
we can. Isn’t that the same rebellion
against God that Satan had.
We can’t come to God anytime
WE choose (John 6:65).
It has to be in response to the
Holy Spirit calling us.
But if you feel he is talking to you now…
You can say right now “I choose
Jesus and accept his payment for my sins and I AM
going to get off this path of
destruction right now and become a follower of the truth
in Jesus because Jesus
said that “For God so loved the world, that
he gave his only
begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting
For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world;
but that the world
through him might be saved” and I accept that". (John 3:16-17)
If you prayed
that prayer then you have a promise –
that he will never leave you or forsake
you ! (Hebrews 13:5)
Fellow servant, Do what Jesus did and also told us to do:
“…If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up
his cross, and follow me” - Mt 16:24.
What did Jesus deny himself?
He denied himself just about everything.
But it’s not in the ‘what’ He denied himself, it’s about the ‘act
of self denial’.
In other words, make it a practice to say ‘No’ to the things you
know are wrong.
Let us begin to live according to the Spirit, Galatians 2:20 says:
“I am crucified with
Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me:
and the life
which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God,
me, and gave himself for me”
is the time to change!
you prayed, then Ephesians 1:13 says
that you will be sealed for God:
whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel
of your salvation:
in whom also after that ye believed,ye were sealed with
that holy Spirit of
resurrection of Jesus from the dead, shows God’s acknowledgement of that
payment for our sin
and promises us the same Eternal Life that Jesus had when
he said “I am he that liveth, and was dead;
and, behold, I am alive for evermore,
Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death”. Revelation
What happens on the earth at this
Revelation 17:10-12 “And there are seven kings: five are
fallen, and one is, and the
is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. And the beast that was,
and is not, even he is
the eighth, and is of the
seven, and goeth into perdition. And the
which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as
yet; but receive power as kings
one hour with the beast”.
John was writing under Roman
rule so Rome
would be the 6th Empire,
the “and one is” from the
verse above. But the 7th king
lasts just a “short space”.
What other world empire has
there been since Rome that has lasted only a
short time but
could be clearly seen as a World Empire (China & Europe
have a long standing history).
other nation has the traits of ‘bearing fruit’, having the light of the gospel,
being a ‘buying’ nation whose destruction would impact the world
Looking at America I can see
her currently as a world Empire and in terms of history,
she has not been
around a long time so if America is
the main part of the Fire & Brimstone
destruction of Luke 17:29,
just after a “snare” comes on all the world, that would fit the role
nation that historically could be said would “continue a short space”.
Other nations are still
around that were former world empires (Italy – Greece etc.) but in this
it sounds to me like when this 7th
empire is gone there is no trace left of it’s
So, could America
be the nation that is destroyed at the time of the rapture?
You will have to think about
that for yourself, but there are many other arguments for
that idea that we
have not even touched upon – take a look at Isaiah chapter 18 for instance,
find others, let the Holy Spirit guide you.
The 8th Empire
will be the one that breaks in pieces and tears mentioned in Daniel 7:7 and
also seen in detail
in Revelation chapter 13, but chronologically I believe
that the rapture and then the destruction in Revelation
chapter 18 will happen
before that 8th Empire is revealed.